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Old 05-18-2006, 02:59 PM   #29
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reverse gyno? im sorry... i think you are misunderstood...it will reverse symptoms like puffy nipples, nipple sensitivity, etc while you are on it.... but it is not going to make breast tissue that has developed dissapear... sorry man... only surgery will fix that.
I have PERSONALLY experience with this, so yes it can.

If you search the steroid section on bb.com youll find some studies proving it too...
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Old 05-18-2006, 03:35 PM   #30
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I have PERSONALLY experience with this, so yes it can.

If you search the steroid section on bb.com youll find some studies proving it too...

nolva does not make the growth of breast tissue dissapear..... you may have experienced gyno from AAS or PH's, and nolva was used and helped take away the side effects and STOP the future growth of breast tissue... but what is already there can not be reversed. im sorry...... i dont know what "studies" have been posted on bb.com, but i can assure you that yes nolva can be used to inhibit breast tissue developement if you experience gyno, but it cant undue the damage thats already been done
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:59 PM   #31
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nolva does not make the growth of breast tissue dissapear..... you may have experienced gyno from AAS or PH's, and nolva was used and helped take away the side effects and STOP the future growth of breast tissue... but what is already there can not be reversed. im sorry...... i dont know what "studies" have been posted on bb.com, but i can assure you that yes nolva can be used to inhibit breast tissue developement if you experience gyno, but it cant undue the damage thats already been done
What do you base this on? There are loads of people who have experienced decrease in gyno a.k.a reverse, from the use of tamoxifen...
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What do you base this on? There are loads of people who have experienced decrease in gyno a.k.a reverse, from the use of tamoxifen...

you are prolly reading information and interpreting it wrong. Yes TC can stop some of the effects or sides of gyno like water retention, puffy nipples, sensation in the nipples, etc.... BUT IT CAN NOT make breast tissue that has formed due to gyno just dissapear. once breast tissue has formed, you cant just take TC and all of a sudden that developed fatty breast tissue just goes away..... that is why people have surgury.
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look you are gonna believe what u believe, and im gonna believe what i believe.... really no use in arguing/discussing about it.... prolly should both just move on lol
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maybe im mixing my words up... im not saying nolva cant stop gyno.... it def. can help stop the developement of breast tissue due to gyno. what im say is it can not reverse the effect of gyno damage in terms of the developement of breast tissue that has already occured. it just cant make whats already formed just dissapear
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:13 PM   #35
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maybe im mixing my words up... im not saying nolva cant stop gyno.... it def. can help stop the developement of breast tissue due to gyno. what im say is it can not reverse the effect of gyno damage in terms of the developement of breast tissue that has already occured. it just cant make whats already formed just dissapear
I get your point, but IMO you are wrong, and no, I did not read the info wrong.

Gyno can come and go by itself to, even without the use of tamoxifen!

I am right here, when I have beter time Im gonna post some studies. I have even been talking to an endo about this for a couple of months ago and he ASLO said this.

I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ALSO! I had a little gyno, a small lump under my right nipple, took nolva for a couple off weeks and it got noticable smaller, almost completely dissapeard.

Ok, lets agree to disagree, because I have the feeling this didnt convince you, lol.

A healthy discussion is always good.
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I get your point, but IMO you are wrong, and no, I did not read the info wrong.

Gyno can come and go by itself to, even without the use of tamoxifen!

I am right here, when I have beter time Im gonna post some studies. I have even been talking to an endo about this for a couple of months ago and he ASLO said this.

I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ALSO! I had a little gyno, a small lump under my right nipple, took nolva for a couple off weeks and it got noticable smaller, almost completely dissapeard.

Ok, lets agree to disagree, because I have the feeling this didnt convince you, lol.

A healthy discussion is always good.
you can find your studies if you want.... i think you probably misread them. i just searched for a good 30 mins after i came back from doing shoulders and legs and could find nothing you to support what you are saying.
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i have posted this question on another board, one where knowledge of this and other questions related to AAS, Anti-E's , etc. is far more superior to that of bb.com or 99.9% of any board out there.

ill let you know the answer... if im wrong, im wrong... ill admit it... its just my opinion is based on what ive learned and studied over the past 7 years
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question has been answered by 5 people... and all 5 state that i am correct. all 5 people i know.. and all are far more knowledgable than myself and most people on AAS, ph's, anti E's, etc
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reverse gyno? im sorry... i think you are misunderstood...it will reverse symptoms like puffy nipples, nipple sensitivity, etc while you are on it.... but it is not going to make breast tissue that has developed dissapear... sorry man... only surgery will fix that.
yes, it can! if the symptoms are realtively new. If you leave it and 'wait' until completing your cycle, you may get permenant gyno like that!

i would recommend that all users use nolva upon the start of irritation/development of puffyness.

i have had gyno after using 1AD (a legal PH here in the UK). 2 weeks on nolva only and it slowly disappeared. Personal experinece says it all!
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well, i'd go for either arimidex or tamoxifen, dosage depends on the severity of gyno

they are the strongest anti-oestrogens available

Tamoxifen is Nolva...

Arimidex is pretty strong, it should work well...


You should be using both clomid and nolva for PCT not just one.


Why not use Tren. it doesn't aromatize.
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Why not use Tren. it doesn't aromatize.
What are you talking about?
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What are you talking about?
Trenbolone acetate does not aromatize into estrogen.......
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